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Fostering Extremism and Hate

24 Feb

While the SPLC doesn’t regard the Tea Party Movement as a hate group – I think that is an exercise in semantics. Some pretty fine hair splitting, indeed.

In Arizona, “Hate Central” for the “movement”, Republican legislators have drafted an even more draconian gang-rape of the Constitution…

Number of U.S. hate groups on the rise, report says

The number of radical right groups in America — including hate groups, “Patriot” groups and nativist groups — increased in 2010 for the second year in a row, according to a report by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The organization’s quarterly publication, Intelligence Report, said the growth was “driven by resentment over the changing racial demographics of the country, frustration over the government’s handling of the economy, and the mainstreaming of conspiracy theories and other demonizing propaganda aimed at various minorities.”

The SPLC documented 1,002 hate groups operating in the United States in 2010, a 7.5% increase from the year before. It was the first time that more than 1,000 hate groups were recorded since the organization started tracking them in the 1980s.

But the biggest growth was in so-called “Patriot” groups, which the organization described as conspiracy-minded groups that see the federal government as their primary enemy. There were 300 new groups like this, an increase of more than 60% from the year before, the report said. A lot of the growth in the Patriot groups came from an increase in the number of militias recorded.

There was also a smaller increase in the number of anti-immigrant vigilante groups, SPLC reported.

“We were expecting to see the winds out of their sails because of the mainstreaming (of some of the radical right’s ideas), but that hasn’t been the case,” said Mark Potok, director of SPLC’s Intelligence Project.

He cited developments in the past year such as the passing in Arizona of a restrictive immigration law as an example of extremist ideas being folded into the mainstream.

Politicians affiliated with the Tea Party movement have also co-opted some of the extremist groups’ agenda, ranging from attacking birthright citizenship to requiring special permission for federal agents to carry out operations without the local sheriff’s consent.

But, Potok pointed out, there is a difference between the Tea Party movement and the Patriot movement described in the report.

The Tea Party is not considered an extremist or hate group, “but there are some strains of extremism” in it, he said.

We Know What to Do With Labor Unions and Illegals! (some current Arizona Border Vigilantes)

On the organization’s website, there is a new map that includes a list of all the hate groups and extremist organizations operating in each state. The rise of the Patriot groups is especially notable because this is the subset of radical right groups most associated with violence.

“The real large criminal plots have come more from Patriot groups than the hate groups,” Potok said.

As an example, he noted a man with a long history of anti-government activities who was arrested in January in a car filled with explosives outisde a mosque in Dearborn, Michigan.

There was also a case of a neo-Nazi who was arrested in January as he headed for the Arizona border with a dozen homemade grenades, and another case where police discovered a plot to bomb a Martin Luther King Jr. Day parade in Spokane, Washington, he said.

 

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7 responses to “Fostering Extremism and Hate

  1. rkeefe57

    February 25, 2011 at 8:36 AM

    1. There is no legal definition for “hate group,” which is why even the FBI does not track “hate groups.”

    2. The SPLC uses the deliberately meaningless term “hate groups” in its fund-raising propaganda precisely because it allows them to denigrate their perceived opponents without accusing them of any actual crimes.

    3. The “Hate Map” is a fund-raising tool, nothing more. It provides no information whatsoever on the alleged groups, in fact, the SPLC didn’t even bother to make up locations for 262 of the groups; that’s 26% of the total.

    In many states, the percentage of phantom “groups” runs as high as 80-100%. Many of the alleged “groups” are listed twice in the same location.

    4. Since the SPLC is the sole arbiter of the meaningless “hate group” label, AND because SPLC fund-raising is directly tied to creating the illusion of an ever-increasing threat, it is in their direct financial interest to raise the numbers each year.

    Last year the SPLC took in $31 million donor-dollars in donations and earned $26 million in interest on its bloated “Endowment Fund.” That’s $57 million dollars for last year alone. Since 2003, the SPLC has taken in more than a third of a BILLION dollars in tax-free cash, and yet the number of “hate groups” always goes up.

    http://wp.me/pCLYZ-82

    5. The most ironic (read: “hypocritical”) thing about the Southern Poverty Law Center is that NOT ONE of its top ten, highest paid executives is a minority.

    http://wp.me/pCLYZ-7m

    In fact, according to the SPLC’s hometown newspaper, the Montgomery Advertiser, despite being located LITERALLY in the back yard of Dr. Martin Luther King’s home church, the SPLC has NEVER hired a person of color to a highly paid position of power in its entire 40 year history.

    Some “experts”

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    • btx3

      February 25, 2011 at 10:06 AM

      Nice cut and paste from the Stormfront site – but there are a few problems –

      1. There is no legal definition for “hate group,” which is why even the FBI does not track “hate groups.”

      The FBI does indeed track “hate groups” and maintains a list of such groups in conjunction with the Simon Wiesenthal Canter and the SPLC. Since hate in an of itself is not a crime, what the FBI does not do is open criminal investigations of such groups solely based on their rhetoric. You don’t want to believe that, suggest you go back into the FBI’s own records of how either undercover officers or informants have assisted them in breaking up dozens of these groups and arresting thousands of their followers either before of after committing crimes. Furthermore foks who belong to these groups are tracked as domestic terrorists in the very same database as foreign terrorists are tracked. You need to get a clue.

      2. The SPLC uses the deliberately meaningless term “hate groups” in its fund-raising propaganda precisely because it allows them to denigrate their perceived opponents without accusing them of any actual crimes.

      If you go to the SPLC site, they actually track crimes committed by members of these groups. Furthermore, the SPLC pursues Civil cases against hate groups which have committed violence. there is a close correlation between the Hate Groups listed by the SPLC and criminal activity.

      3. The “Hate Map” is a fund-raising tool, nothing more. It provides no information whatsoever on the alleged groups, in fact, the SPLC didn’t even bother to make up locations for 262 of the groups; that’s 26% of the total.

      Many of the Hate Groups are involved in criminal activity. While there are criminals stupid enough to announce their crimes – the most favored scenario by criminals is to avoid the limelight. As such, many hate groups are secretive. The SPLC does not have law enforcement power, nor have they the right to use the investigative tools of the police. As such, your argument is rather myopic, and has nothing to do with the real role of the SPLC – or the real world for that matter.

      5. The most ironic (read: “hypocritical”) thing about the Southern Poverty Law Center is that NOT ONE of its top ten, highest paid executives is a minority.

      Yeah – We got a black President in the 62% white America right now. And his WIFE is black! And his KIDS! And his social director! And several of his ADVISORS!

      Oh My! What’s America coming to?

      Morris Dees and most of the SPLC directors are Jewish – which, before the days of David Horowitz counted as a minority. AND, are still targets of Hate Groups.

      Further, you seem caught in the basic racism that the SPLC is solely about protecting black folks. The SPLC tracks ALL hate groups, regardless of what race the group is made up of- and who the target of their hate is. So for instance the Nation of Islam, the “National Black Foot Soldier Alliance” are listed as “Hate Groups” in Texas, and the “Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ” in Pennsylvania – and include what is left of the New Black Panther Party

      However, the vast majority of hate groups in the United States are some flavor of White Supremacist, and many of these groups are politically associated with the Tea Party. The Tea Party has “mainstreamed” some of those groups beliefs into legislation – such as in Arizona, and in North Carolina.

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      • Richard Keefe

        February 25, 2011 at 11:55 AM

        Why would criticism of the SPLC have to come from Stormfront? Why can’t you just address my posts without the smears?

        “what the FBI does not do is open criminal investigations of such groups solely based on their rhetoric.”

        This is EXACTLY the point I’m making. Even the SPLC’s $147,000 PR man Mark Potok says the exact same thing:

        “The FBI does not monitor groups just because they have “hateful” ideology. There must be some evidence of criminal wrongdoing.“ (www.usatoday.com, May 17, 2002)

        The FBI doesn’t have a problem with these groups’ ideologies until they cross over into the criminal realm.

        The SPLC, on the other hand, says that “…a “hate group” has nothing to do with criminality… [or] potential for violence…” Rather, as Potok put it, “It’s all about ideology.”

        No violence, no criminality, just “wrong thinking.”

        That’s all well and good as long as you don’t like what a certain group says, but what happens when the SPLC arbitrarily designates YOUR group as a “hate group”?

        They’re doing it already. Anyone who believes that people should enter this country according to EXISTING immigration laws belongs to a “hate group,” and the SPLC is going around telling law enforcement that a sure way to spot “domestic extremists” is to look for third-party bumper stickers on their cars?

        THAT doesn’t bother you?

        2. I go to the SPLC website almost daily. Where exactly do you think my numbers come from?

        Again, SPLC PR Guru Potok acknowledges:

        “And I would say as a general matter, it is extremely unusual these days for an organization to plan and carry out a criminal act where mainly for the reason that they are so likely to get caught.

        So what we really see out there in terms of violence from the radical right is BY AND LARGE WHAT WE COULD CALL LONE WOLVES, people operating on their own or with just one or two partners. As opposed to, you know, being some kind of organizational plan.”

        (www.npr.org, October 30, 2008)

        Potok’s words, not mine.

        “Still, [Potok] said the public should remain vigilant about the activities of hate groups, EVEN THOUGH INDIVIDUALS are responsible for the majority of hate crimes in America.”

        (www.courier-journal.com, July 21, 2009)

        3. IF so many of these “groups” are involved in criminal activity and the SPLC has been tracking them, then WHY doesn’t the SPLC report them to law enforcement authorities and put them in jail??

        Why are there 33 “hate groups” in Alabama if the SPLC has documented all this crime. The SPLC has raked in a third of a BILLION dollars in the past 7 years, why can’t they even eradicate the “hate groups” in their own backyard?

        By labeling them as “hate groups” the SPLC gets to denigrate them without accusing them. It’s a classic public relations stunt.

        5. Okay, you totally lost me here.

        I say that the SPLC promotes itself as a leading civil rights organization, it’s located in Montgomery, Alabama, which the SPLC refers to as “the birthplace of the American Civil Rights Movement,” and is sited LITERALLY in the back yard of Dr. King’s home church, and yet has never hired a minority to a highly paid position of power in FORTY YEARS, and you think this is NORMAL?

        What does the whole rant about Pres. Obama have to do with the above statement?

        In forty years the SPLC never found one single individual of color who wanted to earn a six-digit salary at the nation’s leading civil rights org?

        Did you say that out loud before you typed it? Maybe you’re okay with that kind of white supremacy, but I’m not and I’ll continue to expose it at every opportunity.

        This is the exact same excuse the NBA and NFL used for decades to avoid integrating their own executive suites. It was crap when they said it and it’s crap when the SPLC says it, too.

        If you want to continue this discussion I’m more than willing to, but if you cannot stick to the facts without sliding into ad hominem attacks and other smears you’re on your own.

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      • btx3

        February 26, 2011 at 9:55 AM

        Richard –

        Why would criticism of the SPLC have to come from Stormfront?

        After the 3349th time you hear the same criticism, in exactly the same format…

        That’s all well and good as long as you don’t like what a certain group says, but what happens when the SPLC arbitrarily designates YOUR group as a “hate group”?

        Nothing. The SPLC may go after a group civilly for criminal activity. Some – but not all of the groups are involved in criminal activity. The Nation of Islam is a hate group in the SPLC’s eyes because of their ideology. However, you would be hard pressed to fin many NOI members assaulting or murdering white people. Groups like the Hammerskins, and quasi defunct Aryan Nations are consistently involved in assaults, murders, and vandalism against minorities, and not infrequently very high levels of domestic violence, internecine violence, weapons violations, armed confrontations with authorities, and according to some psychologists sado-sexual violence against children.

        More than a few of these groups finance themselves through other criminal activities such as drugs. The principal manufacturing and distribution mechanism for amphetamines in rural areas are several of these groups.

        So no – I don’t think it is unreasonable to provide information to the public that these groups are operating and recruiting in your area – and more than informing citizens that violent drug gangs like MS-6 have moved in.

        They’re doing it already. Anyone who believes that people should enter this country according to EXISTING immigration laws belongs to a “hate group,”

        Unfortunately, way too many of these “ant-immigrant” groups ARE hate groups. The recent conviction for murder of a 9 year old girl in her own home in Arizona puts a very strong point on that. The immigration laws written in Arizona were written by a guy with very strong ties to a hate group. You’d probably righteously jump up and down if President Obama hired Louis Farrakhan to write laws about where white folks could and couldn’t go in this country. or what jobs white folks could hold. It is the flip side of the same coin.

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      • btx3

        February 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM

        So what we really see out there in terms of violence from the radical right is BY AND LARGE WHAT WE COULD CALL LONE WOLVES, people operating on their own or with just one or two partners. As opposed to, you know, being some kind of organizational plan.

        That is confusing domestic terrorism with hate groups. And – because of the heat put on these groups by the SPLC, among others – the “Lone Wolf” modus operandi has become a core part of their operational belief set.

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      • btx3

        February 26, 2011 at 10:07 AM

        3. IF so many of these “groups” are involved in criminal activity and the SPLC has been tracking them, then WHY doesn’t the SPLC report them to law enforcement authorities and put them in jail??

        On what basis are you going to put them in jail? The threat that they might become violent?

        In forty years the SPLC never found one single individual of color who wanted to earn a six-digit salary at the nation’s leading civil rights org?

        IBM, HP, Dell Computer, and General Motors have never had a black president. While I wait for an offer letter to take the helm of one of these organizations…

        I don’t think I will stop buying their products.

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  2. Constructive Feedback

    March 3, 2011 at 10:26 PM

    http://bqpfrc-bias.blogspot.com/2011/03/which-force-more-accurately-models.html

    A HATE GROUP should show its face by WHAT IT DOES, not by WHO comprises its membership.

    BET Uncut – Are the Crips and Bloods listed as “Hate Groups” by your Snarling Fox joint-venture partners?

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